Comments on: Magento book review found http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/ Web development and new media observations Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:02:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: mgkimsal http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-56985 mgkimsal Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:53:08 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-56985 As far I know there's only one version of this book. This blog entry was about that book. There might be a revision coming out, but it would still be a moving target. Magento has had around <a href="http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister" target="_NEW" rel="nofollow">18 releases in less than a year</a>. On average, that's new behaviour, bug fixes, changes, potential database changes, and more, every 3 weeks. I'm not sure how well any book, guide, whatever can keep up with that level of change. As far I know there’s only one version of this book. This blog entry was about that book. There might be a revision coming out, but it would still be a moving target.

Magento has had around 18 releases in less than a year. On average, that’s new behaviour, bug fixes, changes, potential database changes, and more, every 3 weeks. I’m not sure how well any book, guide, whatever can keep up with that level of change.

]]> By: David http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-56983 David Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:43:40 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-56983 Is this the same book as what is promoted on php|A's website or is it a revision? VERY CONFUSING, different title, different cover, different total page count... as seen on Amazon or Borders websites Php Architect’s Guide to E-commerce Programming With Magento Mark Kimsal (See All Contributors) Paperback, 184 pages Marco Tabini & Associates, Incorporated May 30, 2008 I want to get the most current if there are in fact two books... thx DK Is this the same book as what is promoted on php|A’s website or is it a revision? VERY CONFUSING, different title, different cover, different total page count…

as seen on Amazon or Borders websites

Php Architect’s Guide to E-commerce Programming With Magento
Mark Kimsal (See All Contributors)
Paperback, 184 pages
Marco Tabini & Associates, Incorporated
May 30, 2008

I want to get the most current if there are in fact two books…

thx

DK

]]> By: Gunter http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-56006 Gunter Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:08:27 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-56006 While searching for "Magento book" at Google, I stumbled over this little discussion. Just been wondering if this book is still close enough to the Magento codebase. If not, any other suggestions about resources/books as I want to spent some time learning Magento. While searching for “Magento book” at Google, I stumbled over this little discussion. Just been wondering if this book is still close enough to the Magento codebase. If not, any other suggestions about resources/books as I want to spent some time learning Magento.

]]> By: Steve G http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-54110 Steve G Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:02:23 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-54110 I'm probably a B+ php coder, and I'm glad to see that others are confused by Magento. I completely agree with the comment that open source should be both open and relatively easy to understand. It was quite heartening to see the questions at the back of the book, particularly "Magento's naming conventions are crazy!" and "I give up! Magento is too confusing!" I thought maybe it was just me... :) Part of my problem is that both the EAV data structure and MVC are new paradigms for me, so it's a little hard to figure out how to attack understanding Magento. I have the book, and have only skimmed it so far, but I'm looking forward to going through the customs module code. My hope is that I'll be able to make the leap of understanding from creating the demo modules to seeing how to construct the module that I need. My problem is that I'm past deadline on the shopping cart project at hand, and while I love Magento's admin facilities and know that I can customize the code, understanding exactly where and how to do so is really frustrating. FWIW, I'd love to see Magento vastly simplified, even if it's Magento Lite with support for only one store. I can see where someone would eventually understand how to customize/optimize Magento, but it almost means devoting all your resources to it and becoming a Magento expert. Maybe that's what Varien had in mind -- people would get fed up and pay them to do the customizations. I’m probably a B+ php coder, and I’m glad to see that others are confused by Magento. I completely agree with the comment that open source should be both open and relatively easy to understand.

It was quite heartening to see the questions at the back of the book, particularly “Magento’s naming conventions are crazy!” and “I give up! Magento is too confusing!” I thought maybe it was just me… :)

Part of my problem is that both the EAV data structure and MVC are new paradigms for me, so it’s a little hard to figure out how to attack understanding Magento. I have the book, and have only skimmed it so far, but I’m looking forward to going through the customs module code. My hope is that I’ll be able to make the leap of understanding from creating the demo modules to seeing how to construct the module that I need.

My problem is that I’m past deadline on the shopping cart project at hand, and while I love Magento’s admin facilities and know that I can customize the code, understanding exactly where and how to do so is really frustrating.

FWIW, I’d love to see Magento vastly simplified, even if it’s Magento Lite with support for only one store. I can see where someone would eventually understand how to customize/optimize Magento, but it almost means devoting all your resources to it and becoming a Magento expert. Maybe that’s what Varien had in mind — people would get fed up and pay them to do the customizations.

]]> By: Tsengtan Adam Shuy http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-52830 Tsengtan Adam Shuy Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:40:34 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-52830 The mto module does not work with Magento 1.0.19870.4 either. The mto module does not work with Magento 1.0.19870.4 either.

]]> By: Tsengtan Adam Shuy http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-52740 Tsengtan Adam Shuy Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:56:34 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-52740 The test.php is an easy fix. but the mto module is still not working with Magento 1.1.6 The test.php is an easy fix. but the mto module is still not working with Magento 1.1.6

]]> By: Tsengtan Adam Shuy http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-52679 Tsengtan Adam Shuy Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:34:47 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-52679 Also I ran the test.php of the download file from the book link, I got the following error: Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Mage_Core_Model_Store_Exception' in /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Model/App.php:1131 Stack trace: #0 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Model/App.php(583): Mage_Core_Model_App->throwStoreException() #1 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/Mage.php(212): Mage_Core_Model_App->getStore(NULL) #2 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/Mage.php(217): Mage::getStoreConfig('web/url/use_sto...', NULL) #3 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Controller/Request/Http.php(118): Mage::getStoreConfigFlag('web/url/use_sto...') #4 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Model/App.php(263): Mage_Core_Controller_Request_Http->setPathInfo() #5 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/Mage.php(424): Mage_Core_Model_App->init('default', 'store', Array) #6 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/test.php(18): Mage::app('default') #7 {main} thrown in /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Model/App.php on line 1131 Does anyone know how to fix the above problem? Also I ran the test.php of the download file from the book link,
I got the following error:
Fatal error: Uncaught exception ‘Mage_Core_Model_Store_Exception’ in /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Model/App.php:1131 Stack trace: #0 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Model/App.php(583): Mage_Core_Model_App->throwStoreException() #1 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/Mage.php(212): Mage_Core_Model_App->getStore(NULL) #2 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/Mage.php(217): Mage::getStoreConfig(’web/url/use_sto…’, NULL) #3 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Controller/Request/Http.php(118): Mage::getStoreConfigFlag(’web/url/use_sto…’) #4 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Model/App.php(263): Mage_Core_Controller_Request_Http->setPathInfo() #5 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/Mage.php(424): Mage_Core_Model_App->init(’default’, ’store’, Array) #6 /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/test.php(18): Mage::app(’default’) #7 {main} thrown in /home/epacific/public_html/epwmage.com/app/code/core/Mage/Core/Model/App.php on line 1131
Does anyone know how to fix the above problem?

]]> By: Tsengtan Adam Shuy http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-52675 Tsengtan Adam Shuy Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:06:48 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-52675 The source code of mto module of Chapter 8 does not work with Magento1.1.6. I suspect that it never work with any Magento version. I got the $mto_length in the Event.php, but I can not integrate this $mto_length into the shopping cart view ../template/checkout/cart/item/defualt.phtml. Could anyone out there help me to integrate it? The source code of mto module of Chapter 8 does not work with Magento1.1.6. I suspect that it never work with any Magento version. I got the $mto_length in the Event.php, but I can not integrate this $mto_length into the shopping cart view ../template/checkout/cart/item/defualt.phtml. Could anyone out there help me to integrate it?

]]> By: John http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-47686 John Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:03:35 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-47686 I purchased this book and it was a great resource for a project like Magento that is in a constant state of change. Many of the complaints are about the types of add-ons or mods but the fact is that if you go through them ones in the books you should be able to alter any other process in the system. Fact: Don't expect to go to a product_details.php file and make a change to the display page if this is what you need then Magento is not for you... regardless of the book. I purchased this book and it was a great resource for a project like Magento that is in a constant state of change. Many of the complaints are about the types of add-ons or mods but the fact is that if you go through them ones in the books you should be able to alter any other process in the system. Fact: Don’t expect to go to a product_details.php file and make a change to the display page if this is what you need then Magento is not for you… regardless of the book.

]]> By: Jesse http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/magento-book-review-found/comment-page-1/#comment-43301 Jesse Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:37:21 +0000 http://michaelkimsal.com/blog/?p=561#comment-43301 Problem solved with the getting the source code! I was checking page 85 of the pdf reader not what was printed on the page, so please disregard that part of my post. Now lets see if it makes things more clear! Problem solved with the getting the source code! I was checking page 85 of the pdf reader not what was printed on the page, so please disregard that part of my post. Now lets see if it makes things more clear!

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